After my interview on batgap.com, someone asked me to post on what reading J. Krishnamurti did for me. I've been very hesitant to video myself and put myself out on the youtube scene, but I decided to give it a try since I enjoy other peoples videos. I'm old enough now that I really don't care what people think. I don't really care if it's not polished. Just sharing what might be interesting to some.
https://youtu.be/nLbCipr-yqc
https://youtu.be/nLbCipr-yqc
4 comments:
Thanks a lot for your sharing about J. Krishnamurti in this amazing video. Having been a regular and obsessive reader for 2 years 1/2 now, I do no succeed to come out of it, among other interesting readings that I also care for. His 'without any tradition' way resonates more than anything else, 'neither god nor not god' speaks to me, I have never found such a bare, deep and not classifiable approach to the reality of life, at least to my limited knowledge. What I feel through these readings, so uncompromising and not comfortable, - I have never read him saying all is well as it is - I find above all a great compassion to set us free. Not an easy task, while it seems so obvious to him ...
Martine, glad to hear you enjoyed my video. I did it late at night, tired, and not the best picture, but I feel that sharing truth as you know it is helpful. Yes, JK is one of the best. Overall, the main criticism of JK is that he did not have students that realized. Perhaps a few. JK was excellent at tearing out conditioning and speaking from a place of realization. However, he did not promote a path, a system that others could follow. I experienced many ecstasies and spiritual epiphanies. I then had to do a lot more reading to understand. Best wishes, Martine. Keep at it.
Maury
I keep at it, Maury, with or without Krishnamurti who would not care about my gratefulness toward him, his unique goal being our freedom and not to have us at his feet, right ?. But he was such a catalyst beginning of 2017, when I knew nothing about even the word non-duality, what it could mean, and nothing about the ancient Eastern wisdom. I then just remembered an event – back to 2002 – I lived while sitting quietly at a small train station.I was not at all on a spiritual, religious, philosophical or existential search. Yet the question ‘what are you’ fell on me unexpectedly, and only remained the seeing of the people, trains,everything that was happening there, but without me. Kind of a silent movie but paradoxically with all the noise of a public place, complete silence behind the voices and the sounds. not kidding. Not a feeling of oneness, but rather a neutral pleasant void. I did not miss the train and kept living as formerly during some 15 years, perhaps it seemed too irrational and not compatible with so to speak a normal life. Now, I feel that what appeared then was a breathrough toward our true nature, not only mine, behind or beyond the different roles we play during our lifetime. I am reluctant to call it an awakening. And as you write in your reply, on the one hand I also have to do a lot more reading to understand, and on the other hand, I guess it is much simpler than what I'm trying to understand. Why do I/we keep seeking ? PS By the way, great video by Tomaj Javidtash.
Agreed, Krishnamurti would not be invested in your gratefulness toward him.
His goal was freedom and I don't believe he encouraged groveling at his feet. He was not interested in adoration.
Your event – back to 2002 that fell unexpectedly was certainly an awakening. The question ‘what are you’ is very significant. First, the inquiry suggested for enlightenment is ask seriously "Who am I?" Asking "What are you" is an even deeper form of that question. Ultimately we are not a "who" but a "what."
We are impersonal awareness. The ground of being is not a person, but ordinary awareness. It is the awareness we use every day, all day. It's just that few every entertain the thought that they might not be a person. It harks back to the "hard question of consciousness. "Is the universe fundamentally matter, or consciousness. It seems that quantum physics is telling us that consciousness is primary.
Seeing people, trains,and everything happening without you, was definitely an awakening glimpse. You can have many of these. They don't have to be a big experience to be an awakening. A stable person with a good ego can take such experiences in stride without losing their balance. It seems you have that. The ego is not the problem, it's the ego not being able to question itself that is limiting.
A silent movie in a public place, experiencing complete silence behind the voices and the sounds is a good taste of enlightenment. A neutral pleasant void is an excellent description an aspect of pure awareness. To see this and not miss your train is a good sign. You took it in stride.
Scientific rationalism tends to make certain experiences seem irrational, but risking oneself to consider things that seem irrational can lead one to see a whole new view of what life is.
You can live a normal life knowing the real you is not a person, but awareness itself. You had a breakthrough to your true nature, beyond the roles you play. The final myth we have to discard is the myth that "It couldn't happen to me!" The bottom line is coming to a deep understanding that you are not just a person, but the impersonal ordinary awareness in which the whole universe appears.
It seems that awareness seeks Itself. We seek until we recognize, "I am That."
Glad you enjoyed the video by Tomaj Javidtash. He has a lot to offer.
Post a Comment