Saturday, June 3, 2023

Eternal Existence

For me, if there is existence, then it has always been. Since knowing existence requires consciousness, then awareness has always been and always will be. Call it God, Sat Chit Ananda, or whatever. It's what always is. The question of "who made God?" doesn't occur to me.

2 comments:

Stefan Iliescu said...

If knowing existence requires awareness, one might think that awareness is something special that facilitates existence. The next questions would be which came first, and whether the first created the second. But how the first appeared also seems a legitimate question. And if we're talking about a first, did it emerge from a Void? A void that wouldn't be so void if it had a quality, namely to create. So it seems that Existence simply exists as Oneness, apart from the concepts of Beginning, End, and Birth. And this Existence, as we can experience and understand it, intrinsically possesses this quality of self-perception, i.e. awareness. And now the question becomes: could Something have the quality of self-perception without being this self-perception altogether? If the answer were yes it would mean that Existence draws boundaries and would no longer exist as a Oneness.

Maury Lee said...

Stefan, I think your observations are correct. The ultimate subject had no beginning and has no end. We have a belief that everything has to be created by something, so we want to know what created the initial subject. We can only rest in knowing it has always existed. And yes, "Existence" creates boundaries. We all know that. Advaita and even Christianity claims God is one. Advaita therefore calls all forms of life 'appearances," not ultimately real. It also calls reality that which does not change. Therefore 'reality' is the original, eternal source. All else that changes is therefore not real, or illusion, or just a temporary appearance.

Bernardo Kastrup makes very good logical arguments about consciousness making boudaries. And, to have any experience there must be boundaries. Source must want to evolve and to do that had to create form so that experience could happen and life could evolve.

Basically Stefan, I'm saying that your comment seems totally correct and I agree with your comment.