Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Beyond Thought and Feeling

"My understanding has been only intellectual & theoretical.."

Both intellect and the heart are paths. Both are valid. I suspect those with a strong intellect follow that path, and those with strong feeling follow the heart. Neither is better. Neither one is superior.

Nothing will so break the intellect as feeling. And thinking often unseats or stirs up great feeling. In the end, feeling and thought merge, and one feels one's thoughts and thinks one's feelings.

If your thinking mind comes to realize its limit; knows it cannot "get" this, then there can be a relaxation into something outside the constraints of thought.

A great anxiety may need to be experienced when thought is revealed to be inadequate. But, then again, if one considers that thought never did contain Truth, one might be able to move on, knowing that the security thought seemed to provide was never real.

Since thought never was adequate, one realizes that one did survive the illusion! The security was false, but survival was still the fact. In this manner, thinking, though not adequate, provides the proof that one can survive quite well with false security.

This realization may provide some relief in letting go of intellectual understanding, as one sees that it never was adequate, and so your dependency on it was never the security you thought it was.

"I am at a loss where the next step is."

There isn't a next step. You have simply reached the end of finding any security in thinking. Feeling is not going to provide the understanding either.

There is something else. It is called the unknown. It's not something one usually envisions as a place to rest. But in the end, when your mind is spent, and your emotions are spent, the unknown may be the only place you can find to rest. If you embrace the unknown, at least it is sure. It will remain unknown.

One realizes that one acted and reacted in unknowing, even when one thought one knew. It's like loosing your security blanket. It never really protected you from anything. You just thought it did.

After the unknown, a few lucky souls experience something else, a subjective knowing beyond thinking or feeling. It is a knowing that is unshakable. In the Christian tradition it has been described as "The peace that passeth understanding."

This knowing is not assailable by thought, because it is beyond it. It is not assailable by feeling either. The mystics called these experiences "unitive." Oneness with God is another description. The East calls these satori.

Keep in mind that the ecstasies of the the subjective experience, or satori, also do not last. But the taste provides a foundation in unknowing knowing. One is then neither happy nor sad, but just O.K. Just O.K. is a good thing. No more searching after high or low. Just this.

Soon enough one finds that one can rest, even function in unknowing. Thoughts may come and go, but they are not held on to. Feeling states come and go, but they are not held on to.

Charlie Hayes says “The difference between an intellectual understanding and AWARENESS noticing itself is incredible “

I would ask Charlie. He may be able to provide clarification. He is speaking from beyond the little mind trying to grasp. It's called non dual understanding. Simple, but apparently not simple to come by.

"I am groping in the dark."

That's not a bad thing. It is your mind that feels in the dark. Your feelings may also be groping in the dark. So what is beyond these two? The unknown. Let the unknown become your friend. Peace can be found there.

Lastly, consider these words of the great Sufi poet, Rumi.

"Out beyond ideas of Wrongdoing and Right doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about. Ideas, language, and even the phrase 'each other' doesn't make any sense."
-Rumi, c. 532 A.D.

There is no "next step."

God bless.


Venk At Ease said...

Thank you Maury for the reply..I am greatful

I have few points.. somewhat random and not able to link them together..

1.What is the taste of this Unknown. Is it just that you have understood the limitaions of thinking and feeling now you no longer has hope and thats makes you live every moment as it comes? Is that unknown?

Like you said whatever we did using thinking and feeling didnt take us anywhere..

2.Inspite of understanding the futility of thinking and the false self image things are not in anyway different.. i presume the momentum is still with the mind and nothing has changed interms of the peace which you can experience

3.You say few lucky people experience something like Satori..Does that mean most of the people who have this understanding simply lead life with a certain sense of detachement but dont experience anything deeper? I see so many neo advaitha teachers talking about awakening.. Is the understanding we are talking about is what these people call awakening..just intellectual understanding about the false self and the limitations of thought?..nothing beyond that like satori..

I am not sure..If my understanding is not resulting in deeper bliss then it seems kind of 'DRY'except for some practical trouble free daily life..Sometimes even that looks like a forced & artifical one..

4.Please let me know when you talk to Charles hayes what is this incredible difference when awareness realises otself..what exactky is it?

That is what bothering me..That gap or jump ..whatever it is..

Thank you for the love and compassion you are showing by responding to my questions.. I am greatful.

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